Episode 47, Tre Mosley
[00:00:00] Tre Mosley: The VO Meter. Measuring your voice over progress, whether you’re a veteran voice actor just starting out or don’t even know how to set a level. We’re here to help you avoid the pitfalls along your voiceover path to success. The VO Meter is brought to you by voice actor websites. Vocal booth to go ,global voice acting Academy, JMC demos and Sennheiser. The VO Meter is produced in part using source connect by source-elements.com and now your hosts, Paul Stefano and Sean Daeley.
Sean Daeley: Hi everyone, and welcome to episode 47 of the VO meter.
Paul Stefano: Measuring your voice over progress.
Sean Daeley: This episode, we’re really excited to welcome Florida talent Tremaine Mosley to the podcast, but before that, we’ve got our VO meter reference levels.
Mike Norgaard: Voiceover extra brings you the VO meter reference levels. [00:01:00] Uh, seriously, guys, that’s the best you could come up with.
Hey, it’s your show.
Paul Stefano: Yeah. Thanks again to voiceover extra for sponsoring this segment of the show. Sean, what’s been going on in your bio world?
Sean Daeley: Well, lots of things. Some good things and some sad things. Um, let’s see. I’ll start. Yeah. Oh, I guess I’ll start with the sad things. So as you guys know, I’ve been working with a large e-learning client, English, anyone for the last seven years, and I just got notified earlier this month that after this lesson set, we are unfortunately going to be moving to a different model entirely.
And so we won’t be doing those monthly ear learning modules anymore. So while it’s really unfortunate that like we won’t be working together in that capacity anymore, it’s. I’m trying not to let it get me down, you know? So first off, it’s very important not to put all of your eggs in one basket and not be too reliant on.
And any one client or on any one platform like such as an online casting site or an [00:02:00] agent. And second, it felt like a good time. I felt like both of us were kind of reaching a new stage in our careers, and this really gives me a lot more time to kind of devote to devote to, for example, global voice acting Academy and help improve that as well as my own VO business.
So I was starting to get some. New opportunities for my agents and from some of my own marketing efforts. So it seemed like a really good time for that to kind of fill that gap. So as disappointing as it is to lose a large client that I’ve been with for a long time, I was ready for the ready for the change and I’m optimistic about it too.
Paul Stefano: that’s disappointing for me too because, uh, you hired me,
Sean Daeley: hired you for it several times. Uh, yeah. As an editor and an, uh, as an actor as well. But I’m sure I’ll figure out other ways to help you out cause I know I’m going to need some editing help with audio books. That’s for sure.
Paul Stefano: Yeah. Very interesting.
I’m looking forward to maybe helping out with that as well, but you bring up a good point there about putting all your eggs in one basket. It’s definitely happened to me [00:03:00] as well. I didn’t, I’d never had a client that was basically. Funding more than, you know, 65, 70% of my income. But I have had clients that were steady for awhile, and then it just dropped off the face of the earth.
Uh, I guess it was around the spring of last year, I was doing, um, a series of large training modules for several companies in Asia. I think I talked about it on the show, and that was great because it was several. Several modules every week for about a six month period. I was making pretty good money doing it.
It was above union rates, and for those of you that know the union rates or can go to the GVA guide and check them out, that was doing quite well. And then suddenly it just dried up completely. And I haven’t heard from that client in about four months. So like you said, it’s really, it’s really important to diversify and have several.
Streams of income, either within voiceover or even some other ways that you can make money in a related sense, like you were talking about with editing or producing. Um, as I’ve [00:04:00] talked about in the show the last couple of months, I had been doing some of that. And as long as they’re relatable skills, it’ll help keep your chops sharp and still make some, some decent cash.
Sean Daeley: And that reminds me about numerous interviews I’ve seen with some of my favorite voice actors and casting directors and stuff like that. And it’s the idea that. You have to be flexible, you know, like you can’t always be selective about what work you want to pursue. You have to be open to what work is available.
And it’s not always acting work. Sometimes it is editing or producing or casting or writing or whatever. So if you, if you love this industry enough and. Like you have the innate gifts required, then like you’ll make it work for you, right? It doesn’t have to always be acting for every project that comes your way.
If you love the industry, you’ll figure out other ways to find or to supplement your income within it.
Paul Stefano: And like I said, it really helps with your skills too. We started this podcast a slightly out of boredom, or at least for me, because I definitely wasn’t working as much as I am now and [00:05:00] when we first started five years ago, or a little over four and a half years ago.
It was a way for me to keep my skills sharp and it really helped to the point now where I can edit as fast as probably most people that do only editing because I’m constantly doing the podcast and keeping up with
Sean Daeley: production skills.
Paul Stefano: I even produced full commercials for people like we’ve talked about over the last couple of months where four years ago that would not have been possible at all.
Sean Daeley: Absolutely. Like I said, it’s always good to be prepared for when cause everyone has these peaks and valleys. I know some of our guests have talked about that recently as well, and like you just have to do what you can to be prepared for it. Sometimes that means having alternative Stokes in the fire, like we talked about before, or even a survival gig, which I’ve done as well.
Like I said, it all comes back to passion and commitment, and if this is something that you want to be a part of your life, you’ll make it work for you somehow in whatever way makes sense to you.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, absolutely. So what’s happening? That’s good enough with the bad news.
Sean Daeley: It’s good. A lot of things actually.
So, um, thanks to a [00:06:00] referral, I got. My, uh, my first paid audio book recently. I’m really excited about that. We’re about halfway through production trust, working to finish that up in the coming week or two. And then other than that, I got my new e-learning demo from friend and sponsor the podcast JMC J Michael Collins sounds really great.
And he, uh, was kind enough to tell me he’s already put it in his Sovos spin for next year. So who knows, maybe
Paul Stefano: California. Actually Anderson Olin.
Sean Daeley: Yeah, I know. I know. Who knows. I mean, apparently it was this, at least he told me. Right. Yeah. Apparently Rex just found out, but no, it sounds great. I’m excited about that, and I’m actually working on a commercial demo with, with Terry Daniel and his team.
I had a credit from him from a long time ago back when we used to coach together that I just never took advantage of because he remembered that. What’s that? He remembered, I remind him almost every month, but our schedules have just been so all over the place that, I mean, [00:07:00] we’re both super flexible about it.
Like sometimes like he might’ve had an illness of the family or he was going on vacation or whatever. I was like, yeah, that’s fine. Whenever you have time and any, like I’ve known Terry since I started pursuing Vios, so I mean. We’re colleagues and friends and we know that when we have time, it’s going to just, we’re going to finish it in an hour or two and be done and happy be great,
Paul Stefano: or you’re working directly with him or you’re working with somebody on the team who were most are great.
I’m just trying to figure out how, how he’s working at these days, how big he has gotten. Basically.
Sean Daeley: Uh, well, it sounds like he’s got a handful of people, maybe like a half dozen on his team, and depending on various strengths and stuff like that, he might have them work with a specific coach, but it sounds like I’m primarily working with him and then maybe, uh, Yon Anderson and Rob Marley to help with the script writing.
So excited about that. And, um, and then of course it’s conference season. Woo. God. Vio Atlanta coming up next month. So preparing for that, I’m really excited to do an ex session with Rob Paulson. The keynote speaker is one of my personal [00:08:00] voice acting idols from Animaniacs, teenage mutant Ninja turtles, pinky and the brain in hundreds of other shows since then.
So, yeah. So I, like I said, it’s, it’s a, it’s an interesting transitional time for me, but when I’m really positive about,
Paul Stefano: very cool. So before I talk about anything going on in my world, we have some great news to announce for the podcast. We’re welcoming a brand new sponsor, somebody that we have had a personal connection with for a long time and wholeheartedly endorsed their products.
Please welcome Sennheiser,
Sean Daeley: woo. Move into the big leagues.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, I mean, as much as I love Sennheiser, I’m still kind of pinching myself that. They actually said yes, but uh, they did. We have it in writing. They can’t go back now.
Tre Mosley: I know.
Paul Stefano: We really appreciate them coming on board as a sponsor of the V
Sean Daeley: meter.
Thank you so much. I mean, Sennheiser knowing in obviously industry standard microphones, headphones and audio gear. Paul and I have a number of their equipment in our studios and we’re, we’re so [00:09:00] astatic that they have agreed to be a sponsor for the podcast. So thank you, Sennheiser so much for your sponsorship.
Paul Stefano: Well from my side of the coin, I have don’t have anything negative going on. Uh, slightly negative. Uh, all of my pay to play or online casting site memberships have now expired, with the exception of the exception of voiceovers.com, which also I guess is set to expire soon. I signed up just before view Atlanta last year, but
Sean Daeley: not actually, you should, if cause that was the beta term.
So you should be good through January 1st, 2021.
Paul Stefano: It’s something like that. I remember Matt pushed it off and said that he was, it was going to be different because like you said, one was a bade, and then also he promised all the people that signed up. I’m talking about Matt Dubois, the founder and creator, that he would not run the clock basically on anyone’s membership until the first job was booked.
So I think that’s passed. But yeah, I’ll, I’ll check it out and figure it out. But, um,
Sean Daeley: I’m pretty sure you’re good till January. Um. Let’s see. So, but, [00:10:00] but yeah, definitely check. I mean, honestly, like how, what is your ROI, Ben? Do you feel like you’re going to renew any of them?
Paul Stefano: Well, that’s what I was getting too.
Most of the sites I’ve, I’ve let expire and the ones I was active with over the last two years where VO planet and Bodalgo. And in the past I was a member of, well, pretty much all of them at different, different times. But, um, I let those to expire because I, I didn’t book a job on any of them over the last year years membership.
Now, the funny part is my kids have and continue to do well on both. One or two of the kids that booked on Bodalgo and one is booked on deal planet. So both of those, those owners and founders, Kevin, Western VO planet, and Arman hairstyle for puddle go. They offer free accounts to children. So if you have kids, we’ve talked about that, take advantage of that because my kids just keep breaking up.
Breaking up dough on the side, so we’ll keep those. And uh, voiceovers.com uh, I have not booked yet, but [00:11:00] again, my son just did this week, so
Sean Daeley: it’s kind of neither here nor there. Cause like you said, you can have a free account for him and end yours if you want. Well,
Paul Stefano: the voiceovers.com does not work the same way that I don’t think I can check with Matt, but I’m not positive about that.
I got this audition. I’m not sure what it says about their, their algorithm exactly. But I got this audition for a 10 to 12 year old in my own personal account, and having one in the house was helpful. So we submitted the, we submitted the a, the audition, and he actually booked it. So we’re happy for that.
But my own personal return on investment is not, is not great on voiceovers.com yet, but I will say the volume is definitely picking up for the first several months of the beta. The auditions were trickling in, maybe one per week. But now I’m getting several per week and usually at least one or two a day, and I’m not sure what it is, but the volume is definitely picking up and I’m happy for that, so I’ll stick with them for a while and try and knock it out of the park.
Sean Daeley: Wonderful. Best of luck to [00:12:00] you. Uh, but I know that was a very common complaint with a lot of people, just the, the lack of available jobs. And I know some people were getting very up in arms about it. I’m like, look guys, if it’s, it’s. I’m sure if the jobs are available, they’d send them to you. They’re just not there, you know?
And so, um. Just encouraging people to be patient or pursue other platforms if they’re not
Paul Stefano: happy with it. Right. So I’d couch that as a negative, but it’s not really a negative. It’s just one of the things that I’m still pursuing. It’s like we talked about have, have a diversification in your, the way you represent yourself and promote your business.
So I am still doing fine with several ongoing e-learning clients, and I’m working on several audio books right now. I just finished one and I’m just waiting for it to go through to retail. Um, and I’m working on one more. That’s going to take me for ever, because it’s like 14 hours long and Oh my gosh.
Frankly, it’s quite slow going because there’s a ton of characters with many, [00:13:00] many different accents. I actually right here, I have a paper character sheet because it’s so intense. I can’t go back and forth. Usually I’m able to use electronic materials for all the script reading. All the character knows, but because there’s 14 to 20 characters here, I actually printed out the paper copies and kept them on the, on the desk inside the booth so I can reference back without having to have to turn off the recording or I flip away from the door so that, that was kind of daunting.
And then I have one more. I’m working on a nonfiction book that’s I’m working on concurrently. So my main, you know, bread and butter is still happening and I’m working on those things. Well, it’s still chasing auditions from the agents and, and things like that. And then like you mentioned, conference season, I’ll be back at VO Atlanta on the production team and a hair on fire, like always trying to make sure everything goes smoothly.
This year I’m working specifically with the audio book Academy that’s new to be Atlanta. So if you’re an audio book narrator, come say hi to me. I’ll be at the [00:14:00] crown Plaza most of the time where the audiobook Academy is going on. And if uh, you want to say hi, please do.
Sean Daeley: He’s like the wind. He’s everywhere and nowhere all at once.
Paul Stefano: Exactly.
Sean Daeley: All right. Well, that pretty much wraps up the VO meter reference levels, but it’s been a long time coming because you know it’s our favorite part of the show. It’s time. You knew it would. That’s right. It’s been a long time coming, but you knew it would be back. It’s time for
Tre Mosley: course journal.
Sean Daeley: All right, so question will gear purchases. We tried to pretend that it was permanently over, but we should have known better.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, of course.
Sean Daeley: Especially with the holidays coming up. I know you got some cool stuff over the holiday season. Paul, anything you wanted to talk about?
Paul Stefano: Yeah. The thing that basically.
Put me back down the rabbit hole was my, my inability is stop window shopping. So I still have all, all these saved searches on, on eBay or [00:15:00] Craigslist or, or a river. It was all still check things out. And I found a Sennheiser new sponsor, this show, Ooh, Sennheiser MKH four 15. That’s the, the old vintage version of the, uh, the shotgun Mike, that predates the, the.
MKH four 16 so this is a T power model, which runs on 12 volt bulls versus 48 volt. But. I’ve had one before listening to
Sean Daeley: this, Matt, to ask, you’ve had one before. I’ve had one before,
Paul Stefano: but because they’re vintage and because there’s still a fantastic Mike there, they’re quite expensive. They can still be around 400 to $500 I found this one for 125 and he’s had to buy it.
I didn’t even
Sean Daeley: look. I mean there, there are a number of other. Decent shotgun mikes that you could get for that price. But I mean, I, I’ve never used a four 15 myself, but I’ve heard a lot of people talk very highly of them. I mean, they say they have kind of all of the desirable characteristics of the four 16 with like [00:16:00] that very up front and present sound, but they a lot, I keep hearing this term there a little bit warmer.
They’re a little bit more rounded and smooth. So if you don’t mind the, like, it’s a bit of an older mic. So it does require a special adapter, uh, to convert like the Phantom power to, what is it, nine volt or something like that, 12 volt. But if you don’t mind that, I mean, you can get a wonderful sounding Mike for half the cost of the four 16 and still sound similar enough to the four 16 that no engineer’s gonna complain about it.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, and I’m not using it right now. Full disclosure, because it’s my standing up commercial and video game animation. Mike, I usually, I usually use a different mic for sitting down, which we do with the podcast, but it’s exactly as you described. It’s the four 16. With less crisp Enos, if that’s, if that’s the way I can describe it.
So the top end rolls off a bit, which is great for me because I do tend to be a little bit more sibling and it’s basically the perfect marriage to my boys. I shouldn’t have [00:17:00] gotten rid of the other one, but now I rectified that situation.
Sean Daeley: But I mean, come on, you’ve had about two of like of every Mike you owed.
Like just to be real sure that it’s a good,
Paul Stefano: yeah, I think that’s probably accurate. Yeah. So this time I was smart enough not to get rid of my other a shotgun mic. I still have the audio Technica eight 75 are, but, um, while I had the four 15, I was also bidding on a road NTG for, because I was listening to fellow podcasters.
Yeah. I was listening to fellow podcasters, the pro audio suite with, uh, Andrew Peters and George William and Robert Marshall. And, um. Oh, there’s one other person whose name escapes me. Anyway, they did this, this Mike shoot out where they all raved about the NTG four and they said it sounds more like the four 16 than any other Mike they’ve ever heard.
So of course, I had to find out for myself. So
Sean Daeley: I’ve, I’ve often toyed with the idea of getting like a second shotgun. Is it. Like [00:18:00] basically is a cheaper Mike to take with me into the field that I don’t care as much about getting damaged or lost. But, um, I mean, road is kind of like trying to corner that market.
I mean, they’ve got the road NTG three. I know a lot of talent like that. Like I know a McKay and a Lance Blair, we’re using it for a while and this one’s like. It’s got a similar sound to the four 16, but it’s got a lot more low end, which I know some people have said it’s been really great for female talent because it kind of balances out the higher voice.
But for some people, if you’re already Boomi, then, uh, then it can kind of exacerbate that. I think. You had that issue, right, Paul?
Paul Stefano: Yeah. At the end, TG three did not work for me. It was exactly that. It was too, Boomi is inside this booth. It might have been better in a more open space, but inside my four by four whisper and it was a disaster.
So, so the NTG four was little bit different. It was, it was not the same level of, of um, presence. And in most cases, that’s probably a [00:19:00] good thing. And it sounded quite nice in my booth. The only issue was it didn’t sound terribly different from my. Eight 75 are
Sean Daeley: and not, that’s what I was curious.
Paul Stefano: Not at all like the four 16 or the four 15 in my opinion, I didn’t get that same impression that Andrew and George did.
So while having him at the same time and doing an a and B test, which I probably should have saved, maybe I did, if I can dig it up, I’ll put it on the Facebook page. Uh, I think I may have it on my files. I’ll get to why that might be an issue in a second, but it didn’t sound that much different from the, the audio Technica so I ended up just keeping that.
And the fourth
Sean Daeley: one that I’m really curious about now is the, is the newer model that they have, the NTG five and the reason that’s attractive to me is not just because it’s supposed to be kind of like a flat, it sounds like it had a lot of the positive characteristics of the NTG three but a much flatter response and it didn’t have the boominess and.
Was a little bit more analogous to the four 16 but on top of that, you get this amazing, like, I mean, if you’re a videographer or, [00:20:00] or do field audio, like it’s got a full kit, it’s perfect for you. I mean, it’s got like a, a really nice pistol grip from rye coat. That doubles is like a boom shock Mount has this got an incredible kit.
So like, I mean, if you’re, if you’re a videographer professionally or as a hobbyist. This just makes it a lot of sense because it’s, it’s this entire comprehensive kit for things that you might’ve bought piecemeal after the fact, and so it’s something that I might return to if I can ever justify the expense.
Paul Stefano: Yeah. I’ve been intrigued by that one too, and hopefully I can stop myself from purchasing it.
Sean Daeley: Yeah. I admit I’m a sucker for rye coat mounts and stuff like that. And I admit it’s a hobby. And, and you, and I think we talked with Rex and he’s like, don’t let your hobby or actually no, it was George who was saying like, don’t let your hobby confuse your professional desire to sound better.
Cause I mean like if you keep them separate, you can enjoy both, but don’t feel like the better gear is going to improve your reads that much.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, that’s true. So that’s, that’s the microphone question. Will [00:21:00] gear purchase, although it’s working out pretty well so far. The other thing I did and is not really related to VO, but I’ll give you a peek into my, my personal life a bit.
I bought a new computer only because I built a gaming computer. As another hobby, like you were talking about. And I needed a place to plug into the monitor. So it was basically a VR rig for virtual reality because my son got a headset for Christmas and then I needed one too. So I created this gaming computer to be able to power the VR headset because you need a pretty hunky machine to make that work.
And I didn’t have a monitor on which to show it because you can’t. Boot right into VR or you can, but it’s kinda clunky. And if anything goes wrong, you have to take off the headset and you need a way to see what’s on the actual computer to troubleshoot. So, uh, I put it in the office or the studio where, where the, um, the booth is in the same room and then use the monitor I was going to use for my old computer.
And now it’s a, it’s a dual purpose, but the issue was I [00:22:00] was using an iMac, which is built in screen and computer all in one, and I couldn’t plug into the iMac. There may be a way to do it, but because I used an external monitor, all the portrait taken up. So anyway, long story short, I bought an N used Mac mini in order to plug into the monitor and then have the gaming PC plugged into the monitor as well as I can just switch between the inputs, but
Sean Daeley: at, where’d you pick up the mini from.
Paul Stefano: an eBay purchase, a used a used one that seems to be working pretty well. It’s a slight upgrade to, so to justify it to myself and not feel like a complete idiot. I did upgrade slightly so. I was using a, uh, I think in 2011, iMac that was the only upgradable to high Sierra. And it had, um, it had eight gigabytes of Ram.
So now I’ve upgraded to, this one has 16 gigabytes of Ram, so it is much faster and it’s like a late 2012. And I am able to upgrade a Catalina, although I haven’t yet, because [00:23:00] I’m still a little worried about how it’s going to it. How’s going gonna interact with all my audio interfaces and microphones, but I’m up to Mojave right now, which is more upgrading.
And I was there.
Sean Daeley: I met two. I’m a little, I’m a little scared to upgrade. Um. But that’s great. I mean a 2012 wow. You, you wouldn’t like, I admit that’s a little bit earlier than I would go, but I mean the Mac minis, like they’re, they’re great little workhorse computers and certainly strong enough to do audio work or be a media server.
Even those older models. I definitely feel you though, cause I’ve been kind of lusting after like a new computer and stuff like that. Cause recently I traded in my. My previous laptop and my backup laptop to try and get some Apple credit and kind of held off because I dunno, with the 2019 offerings, I wasn’t happy with like the new key, the newer keyboard and, and of course the Apple tax.
I just didn’t find anything that really met my budget. But I just wanted to give you [00:24:00] guys some tips to look for if you’re trying to decide for yourself. Cause I’ve seen recently people were trying to figure out what’s a good Mac to get. For this time of year, is it even worth buying? And honestly, if you didn’t like the keyboard style, the butterfly switches from the 2016 to the 2019 laptops.
Don’t get those because they changed it. They changed it with the new 16 inch Mac book and rumors are that starting in the summer or the fall, they’re probably going to do the same thing to the rest of the lineup. So if that was one feature that you really didn’t like about Mac books for the last couple of years.
Wait or get an iMac or a Mac mini that comes with a, a separate keyboard. And of course, if you’re trying to save money, I’m a huge fan of Mac sales.org or OWC. Uh, they make a lot of, they’ve got a lot of great used and refurbished Macs, and they’ve also got ways to kind of rejuvenate your current mag. So with like SSD upgrades or memory upgrades, if you have an earlier machine that you’re able to use or upgrade yourself.
And of [00:25:00] course eBay and even reverb occasionally have some good use deals on a unused machines. So
Paul Stefano: I notice that,
Sean Daeley: yeah, it’s kind of few and far between, but sometimes you can find them. So yeah, I hope you’d found. Not useful. It’s, it’s an interesting time to be in, right, right now with all these computers, but it’s just like if you don’t want to spend more than two grand on a computer, then go used basically or refurbished
Paul Stefano: and you can find some fantastic deals.
I’ll share with the audience that the gaming computer I built, I bought a used. Dell desktop machine, a 90 20 Opta Plex. I spent $75 for it, and then I bought $100 video card and boom, it’s like a monster and runs all the same games my son’s computer does that. We spent almost $2,000
Sean Daeley: for, Oh my gosh. Wow.
That’s cool. Oh, these times we live in. So yeah. Don’t be afraid to go use like, it just depends on what your needs and your budget are. Of course. Honestly, in the age of planned [00:26:00] obsolescence, like stuff from four or five or seven years ago is still good, but obviously the more current stuff is faster, stronger, et cetera.
But again, is are those features that you really need, is future-proofing important to you? These are the things that you can consider and still get a machine that is, that you could be completely happy with.
Paul Stefano: So do you have any other purchases you want to talk about?
Sean Daeley: I was actually pretty lucky cause, um, I mean the holidays came around, we had Christmas and then my birthday about a month later is, uh, January 24th.
And so my brothers actually got me a bunch of gear and accessories and stuff like that. Feel very spoiled. But anyways, so I got a couple of cool things. So one was I got these little stereo mikes that plug into my center. It’s mixer face. They’re also from central. They’re called the pivot mix and a
Paul Stefano: pivot that your friends fan at all.
Sean Daeley: Oh, pivot
Tre Mosley: pad
Sean Daeley: classic. Have you heard that in a while? [00:27:00] Um, so they’re the pivot Nikes and, um, anyways, like they’re, they’re super tiny. You can kind of, uh, they’re X, Y Mike. So you can make them go basically pointing across each other or forming a little bit of a Y shape. And this is for, this basically turns my mixer face, this little portable interface into a true standalone recording device.
So it’s actually got an SD card in it. So if I don’t want to attach it to an iPhone or any other Android phone or a laptop or whatever, I can just record interviews, dialogue with just this device and the mix. So this would be great for, for conferences, for interviews, for music. Concerts, anything like that where I want to record live, sound in crystal clear quality.
And I just, I just love the form factor of these things cause they’re, they’re compact. The build quality is outstanding. I mean, they’re very small, but they’re very weighty for their size. And I realize mixer face is kind of a mid tier interface, but it really [00:28:00] feels like a luxury boutique audio. Item, any.
It’s just like, I love having it. I love the feel of it. I love how it looks. It’s just a very luxurious piece of audio gear, I feel, you know? So there’s that, and I’m really excited to have that both for the podcast and my own hobbyist recordings, and maybe even some field, or I’m recording auditions in the car, or when I travel.
In addition to that. Speaking of travel, Steph, I got some cool accessories for my Apogee Mike plus, who’s also, it was a birthday gift for my brothers. Apogee makes this kind of custom built travel case and I love it cause they, they re they re-engineered it to give, make it a lot more spacious. So not only does it hold the mic, the mic stand.
Three cables to connect it to either a USBC or a laptop or a phone and it’s even got room for its little custom built pop filter, which they finally made after like three iterations of the Mike. It’s this cool little [00:29:00] thing that just kind of sandwiches between the mic stand and the mic itself. Although I admit I kind of would have expected some more padding on it.
I kind of scratched up scratch the hell out of the back of my mic trying to screw it in there cause it didn’t really have any like protective washers or anything. In my enthusiasm. Just be a little bit more gentle with that show. Yeah, like as you can see, I’ve just kind of was accessorizing over the last couple of months, and that’s just kind of my way to satisfy my gear list without spending a whole lot of money just trying to accessorize the things I already have before we wrap up this segment of questionable gear purchases, we would be remissed to forget one of our greatest sponsors.
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Paul Stefano: All right, everybody. Welcome to the interview portion of this episode of the boo meter. We’re so excited to have our guest today. He has a voice that can appeal to the streets, corporate suits, or just be one of the guys. His voice has been heard in promos on comedy, central corporate narration for Jeep and Pfizer on the field at the university of Florida.
A concert announcer for a top international DJ, Quintin Mosimann and on various commercials across the country. He’s a natural storyteller that can be heard in Jackson’s magical adventures audio book by tomorrow. Shiloh or the [00:32:00] documentary Kings about the family of Martin Luther King on the day star network.
Finally, he’s the voice of DJ Trey Moe in EAs Madden 2020. So please join me in welcoming Tremaine Kendrick Mosley. Welcome Trey.
Sean Daeley: Trey, man, my
Tre Mosley: name man. Wow.
Paul Stefano: Sorry. I wasn’t sure if that was a well kept secret.
Tre Mosley: No, it’s fine. I’m, I’m so, the majority of the people that I’ve met, uh, let’s say post 1999, uh, know me as Trey.
And then I just kinda kept it once I got into VO and other, um, aspects of business. So anyone 1999. Prior, all the way back to my birth. They know me as Tremaine, so it’s, it’s, it’s still kind of strange. I remember, um, uh, coming home for Christmas, I was living in D C came home and gave somebody my, my phone number at home and they were like.
Yeah. Hey, can we, uh, speak the trays? [00:33:00] She’s like, my mom was like, who was Trey? Who like, that’s the other me. So I mean, either one’s fine, just, just messing with you. It’s just strange to hear that. So, but yeah, whoever you call, it’s me. I’ll, I’ll pick up premise. There
Paul Stefano: you go. Well, it’s funny you mentioned living in D C because one of the reasons I wanted to have you on is because you’re a bit of a personal rival for me.
I know you’re, I know you’re a sports guy.
Tre Mosley: Here we go.
Paul Stefano: So I know you’re a sports guy, so I’ll compare it to, uh, in baseball, the, the oils and the Yankees, or in basketball, maybe the Memphis Grizzlies and the Lakers to the Grizzlies. The Lakers may be a pro, maybe a rival, but the Lakers and the grill. To the Lakers.
The Grizzlies don’t even exist. It doesn’t, not even on the radar, but because you’ve done a lot of work in what used to be your backyard in the, in the Baltimore area. Um, it, it cracks me up. I shouldn’t say every time I see you do a job for the Baltimore aquarium, for, [00:34:00] uh, an inner city, uh, inner city, um, youth center that you did a couple of years ago.
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, that my kids’ schools, we talked about that on the show. Hell, you did a training session for the schools that my kids attend, but I congratulate you every time I say it. I always love to have my friends in my ears when I’m either in the car or watching online. So congratulations on all the work you’ve done locally and all across the country.
You’re really kind of blowing up lately.
Tre Mosley: Absolutely.
Sean Daeley: Yeah. Well-deserved man. And I think it’s just funny because Paul and I were joking before this, cause like people who don’t know that you and Paul know each other have seen, you’re like, Hey man, check out this thing, this new project I was on. And then LA Paul’s was like, you son of a,
Tre Mosley: was like, Whoa, Whoa, Paul, calm
Sean Daeley: down.
It’s Trey man.
Tre Mosley: You know, we get it. But I get inboxes like, Hey, you know, ain’t too fun. Bemo bro, you mean take him out? I’m like, no, no, no. He’s a friend. He’s just posting my chives. Oh, know he’s selling. He kind of salty. I’m like, nah, man, [00:35:00] Paul’s getting ex.
Paul Stefano: Yeah. To be fair, we haven’t spent a ton of time together.
I definitely had to be Atlanta and a couple other places, but I probably should tone it down because it has gotten a little ridiculous. I apologize.
Tre Mosley: I mean, coming from where I come from in Miami, um, we, we talk like that just in my family alone. You want to hear some, some smack really being taught. Come on in.
Come down for Thanksgiving. No, you just come down for a weekend and, uh, it’ll fly around, so, no, you’re, you’re, you’re fine. Dude.
Paul Stefano: Might as well kind of family I come from too. So that must be where it
Tre Mosley: comes from. The answer I am, I’m used to it being, especially being the, not only the only son of my mom’s three children, but, um, being the youngest.
So I’ve been getting it, uh, forever. So get in line.
Sean Daeley: Uh, I can feel that, but I mean it’s just funny cause I mean the, the truly mean spirited Vos are few and far between. And honestly, Trey is one of the nicest guys I’ve ever. Ever met and probably, I know Paul is the [00:36:00] one who usually has these sort of like seven degrees of Kevin VO bacon.
But like, actually Trey was one of my first like VO colleagues and contacts like, I think it was eight years ago now. Oh crap man. but I remember we were doing like a VOP IPPs workshop with Elaine Clark, and then you heard me read. And you’re like, man, you sound just like Tom cruise. And like no one had ever said that
Tre Mosley: what he does.
Sean Daeley: And I was like, I had never drawn that comparison before. I thought it was hilarious. And then, but I mean, even just reading your comments online, I was like, man, I jail with this guy. Like he’s got a really good outlook on life and I, and I really wish him the best. Oh, that’s
Tre Mosley: sweet, man. Yeah.
You, you’ve, you’ve actually given me some work too, so, um,
Sean Daeley: Oh yeah, totally. Yeah.
Tre Mosley: Yeah. The, the, uh, the friendship is, is mutual, my friend. Absolutely.
Sean Daeley: Perea rise and tide. But, uh, but anyways, man, so obviously you, you’ve [00:37:00] known me and Paul for a while, but, uh, tell us about yourself. How did you get into the business?
Tre Mosley: it all started in the cold winter night and
Sean Daeley: in the world.
Tre Mosley: I was sitting in with my courtesy phone. No, but so how I got into VO is a, it’s a roundabout question. Um, well, here we go. So I was working in the corporate world as most of us, um, tend to come from, um, I was doing mortgage, I was doing some it and, uh, the mortgage company that I worked for.
Uh, decided to, uh, tell us goodbye. And I said, okay, well, what am I going to do now? They gave me a nice, uh, severance, and I also had some stock that I hadn’t sold. So sitting home, uh, drinking beer and watching documentaries and stuff, I’m like, you know, [00:38:00] I could do that. And, and, and not, you know, toot my own horn, but I know.
Being in customer service. Uh, sometimes they always tell you to talk with, uh, you know, put your smile through the phone. And what I would do, especially when I worked the night shift, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s a little bit more lags to supervisors aren’t monitoring all the calls, so. No. If a call came in and you know, I made the sign to and no thank you for calling.
Uh, this is our customer service. How can I help you? And now they know people in the cubes and like, I don’t know, we had a British guy there looking around like, who the hell is that? So I just had fun with it and I got called in one day and we want to play something for you. And they played. Uh, one of my calls and I’m thinking, ah, well, time to go frat chicken.
I guess I’ll be ho. And they were like, dude, where do you get these voices from? I said, well, [00:39:00] growing up as a kid, um, I was a latchkey kid, so my mom ironically was a teacher, so I would beat her home most of the time. So I’m watching PBS, I’m watching cartoons, I’m just soaking it all in. And that was my friend.
The TV. You know, if it wasn’t books, it was TV. So I would either read and create voices from the books that I read or, um, you know, learning accents and dialects from television. So it, it all kind of, I guess it was preparing me for what I do now. But to answer your question, I sat and watched maybe 10 or 12 hours within.
Two days or so of documentaries, and I really got interested in what happened with, uh, you know, who does, who’s that voice and certain voices. You can tell if it’s an actor that’s doing like an onscreen actor. But then if you hear someone, [00:40:00] uh, that we may know in the business now, I didn’t know who they were then I’m thinking.
He has a kind of, you know, distinctive voice. I don’t know who that is. So now I’m watching credits. Oh, narrated by so and so and so write that name down, narrated by day for know him. Like, I don’t know who he is, but writing that down, you know, narrate, narrate it by whoever. And I’m writing all these names down and I’m going online.
I’m like, Oh, so this is a thing, like, you can do this, do this. So I, uh, did with any. A novice would do. I went out and bought a whole bunch of equipment, not knowing how to use it. Well, that’s not true. My uncle was a TV news director, so he did teach me some things. I had some, some ag knowledge, but not a lot, and I knew somehow it could translate into, you know, hooking up your monitors and I just.
I didn’t know how to do it with a laptop. But YouTube is your friend folks. And I learned how to hook everything up. And I’m like, all right, let’s [00:41:00] do it. And now how do I do it? Cause I didn’t know how to find work. Um, so that led me to, what is it, voice one, two, three. And I’m like, this. It’s it, is it that easy?
So I, I, I joined, um, I had no demos, so I created, and this is where the, the AB background comes in. I knew how to make spots and cut spots, so I just made my own like little. Spots and, and put it on voice. One, two, three, and all of a sudden I started getting all this and something like that worked. Um, kids don’t try this at home, you know, pro demo with someone, you know, that can make one, but Hey, it’s what I did, but I’m just saying, and
Sean Daeley: I started, it’s definitely changed.
Tre Mosley: Oh, absolutely. And then I started getting, you know, some, some work and. You know, a hundred bucks here, a couple of hundred bucks there, and not knowing about rates at all. And we know how important rates [00:42:00] are now because every other blog or vlog or whatever podcasts you hear, they’re talking about race. But you know, to a guy who just got got canned and is making a couple of hundred bucks a pop, I’m like, yeah, this ain’t bad.
Until the work stopped coming. I think I may have booked four jobs and then the rest of the year I ain’t got nothing. And I’m like, I don’t understand. So on YouTube, again, looking around and look and putting these names in again and looking at the work that they’ve done. I’m like, I know. I know that cartoon.
Wait, Pat Fraley did that. And you know, so and so did that. Oh, that’s who Susan blue heads in my mind is just blown. So now I’m in the matrix of YouTube, just downloading all of these voices and people imagine faces and names and voices, you know, matching who they are. Like, okay, if I want to really do this, I need to be around these people.
And then that’s [00:43:00] when, uh, the. The shroud of doom kind of clouded me. Oh, they’re all in LA. I’m in Florida. Uh, and for second, I actually thought about selling the remaining stock I had and grabbing, grabbing the cat, and was like, all right, we’re going to California. Until I saw the cost of living like, no, we’re gonna stay here and it’s not.
It’s not gonna work. So I’m thinking VO is just not going to happen for me. But then I read that and you can now record voice. So we’re from home without, you know, without being in the studio. I’m like, really? How do you do that? Cause my little setup, I had a. AKG perception. Two 20. I had, um, I was using Cubase and I had my, um, you know, my, my windows PC laptop.
And, you know, I thought I was standing on top of the mountain with my [00:44:00] hands on my hip, like I am no voice actor and the people at the bottom like, shut up. You know, I didn’t, I didn’t really know how to make this thing work. And that’s when I saw a video called, and God made a voice actor and it was kind of a, a spin off of a Dodge Ram commercial.
I think it was Cohen, uh. God made a farmer. And, um, I watched the video and at the end of the video it said, VO Atlanta. And I’m like, what is that? And I punched it in. Uh, Google is your friend. I looked it up and it was like, yeah, this is going to be a voice of a conference in Atlanta. Like, Hey, that’s a four hour drive.
Let’s do it. So I, um, I booked a room and, um. Paid for the conference and the way I went, and now I’m surrounded by these [00:45:00] people who, I don’t know. Um, I suppose maybe I should get the, well, actually, let me go back one step. I went on Facebook, started joining crazy groups, and I read something about John Baker and I reached out to her and you know, she was very, very nice and kind to me.
And I’m like, okay, you know what. Uh, that’s one. That’s one person. I know. All right, this is going to happen. So I get there and well, you guys have been to the conference. It was nothing like the big, like Kaboom. It is now. It may have been max a hundred people. And I’m like, I thought. This voice over thing was like a lot of folks, this is, this is like my high school reunion.
I don’t understand. And, um, so I’m, I’m really kind of just like, all right, well, we’re here and you know, I’m, I’m making the rounds. And then they had [00:46:00] panels and Nancy Wolfson was on a panel. I’m like, okay, Nancy knows what he’s talking about. Let’s write her name down. Um, and then with Joan and Rudy, you know, it, it’s.
Interesting watching those two in the same room because if you’ve ever met Rudy, Rudy was like, Hey, what’s up man? How you doing so and so, so good to have you here. And Joan is the, yeah. I’m like, wow, how does that work with these two. And that’s what I was like, Oh, yadda gala. I thought y’all just like, there’s no, that’s my, Oh, okay, girl, do it.
Do your thing. And I was just blown away and I started to meet people and that’s when I kind of was like, ah, I might be able to do this, but I still wasn’t sure. And then I flew out to, that’s voiceover. Uh, first time in Los Angeles got lost. Um, now I’m stuck at union [00:47:00] station looking like a true tourist, cause I got the carry on, I got my laptop case with me.
I’m like, this is not going well. I should be robbed in the next 15 minutes. And I didn’t know where my hotel was. Ironically, a homeless guy. It was like, Hey, well you’re trying to go kid. I’m like, uh, the Grafton on sunset. Oh yeah. So there’s going to be a fork 20 bus that’s going to come over here. You’re take that and you’re transferred to the so and so.
And I’m like, should I really trust you’re longer than me? But his, uh, his directions were accurate. Drop me off a block away from the hotel and a got to the hotel. In, you know, I started to, uh, kinda relax myself cause now I’m drenched in sweat. I’m just like, this is going to be the worst weekend ever. And it was because now my phone died.
There’s no T-Mobile store anywhere on [00:48:00] sunset. Um, I have no way to charge it cause I forgot the USB to charge the phone. So that’s just, uh, it was crazy. But I look at that experience in the people that I’ve met, um. First time meeting Joe Supriano first time meeting a day for Noah. And I’m just kinda standing there like, okay, these are the people I read about, and now I’m like, he just patted me on the back.
Like, Hey Trey, how’s it going? I’m like, how do you know my name? Oh cause I told you, okay, I need to calm down. You need to really calm down, sir. And then I did what they called speed dating. Um, you know, they listened to your demo and then they seem to the next person, the next person. And Nancy was like, who did your demo?
I’m like, Oh,
I did. She was like, yeah, I could tell. No knock. Just I know it’s not a professionally done demo. Your stuff is good, but you really need to get something professional [00:49:00] if you’re really going to try and do this. And I was like, okay. So she didn’t, she didn’t, you know, rake me over the coals because you know her reputation.
By then I had learned and like, Oh, this seems like one of these tough SOV you gotta be careful around her. And she was really cool with me and I flew back to Florida and I had this. Sense of, you know, I really think I can do this. And there was always think, not, no, I, I, there was always doubt, but I would say between 2012 and 2016, um, I started to, to really invest in it and not just monetarily, you know, commercials.
At a different perception from me now, now I’m listening to how these guys and ladies are doing, you know, spots. And I’m like, okay, now I’m, I’m pausing the DVR and I’m listening, you [00:50:00] know? The 2012 Dodge Ram, like, okay, yeah, that, that’s what I, that’s how he did it, but how would I do it? So then I’m going the 2012, I’m like, Oh shit, that was me.
So, you know, I’m getting excited because I’m hearing the potential before anybody else does. And I started just recording, you know, these, these fake promos and fake, you know, commercial spots. Uh, more or less training myself because. I still hadn’t decided on getting a coach yet. And to be honest, I was still living off, you know, my stocks and, and, uh, severance.
So I was like, yeah, I gotta slow down kid. Um, but by 2014, I started really investing in coaching. Uh, as a matter of fact, my very first VO coach was Rodney Saulsberry. Um, one of the greatest guys. Just a nice dude. Um, I think he just. Wakes up out of the bed, smiling. Just a nice,
Sean Daeley: absolutely.
[00:51:00] Tre Mosley: And, um, you know, he was very patient with me.
And one thing that he told me that I, even now, um, if it’s, uh, a session that I’m just really excited about, he, uh, would say, Dre respect the Cabi and I’m like, I don’t know what that means, Rodney. He’s like, no, understand that, you know. There was some guy that took the time to get this idea in his head that I’m going to write this down, someone’s gonna speak it, and then it’s gonna be heard by whomever.
So, you know, give that person their, their do and, and put their words to use and make sure that when you say what you say, you say it from the heart, you mean it. Um, even if you don’t believe it, the art of the job is to at least sound like you believe it. I’m like, okay, so I’ve lied before. I can do this.
I’m like, all [00:52:00] right. Yeah, that’s go. And, but I, I take that to heart now, especially, you know, this is going into year 10 for me. And I’m like, yeah, I still respect the copy. And by 2015 I saw a shift. I had started back working at another, um, another company, but I was still. My mind was focused on this VO thing because now had, had, um, having gone to a few more conferences and started to make the rounds as far as meeting more and more people in the industry.
And I, I saw the, the comradery, albeit competitive, but still like, you know, like just how me and Paul, you know, rib each other. You know, I saw that a lot with, with people and I’m like, so. Wait, he, he booked something. You auditioned for it and you don’t want to spike his drink. Who does that cause in the corporate world, you know, so and so gets a promotion that you are going for [00:53:00] you.
You will hate him the rest of your day there. Steve, he’s all mr. you know, it’s totally not like that. At least from my experience in, in VL. What made me kind of say, not even Canada, but what made me say to myself, you can do this. You mentioned, uh, in the, in the, I guess my short little bio or intro, um, the thing I did for the day star network, the Kings, um, documentary, I made a list and one of the things that I had on the list, I’m like, okay.
I want to narrate. I want to do promos. I want to do trailers within by year 10 and all be at day star is a small network. It’s a, it’s a Christian network and you know, it’s on mostly satellite and cable, uh, channels. So they have their following. But if you [00:54:00] tell somebody, Hey, I did something for day starting, like, is there like.
Yeah. Are you flying to the moon? What does, what does that day? So I don’t, I don’t get, it’s a science fiction. No. So I remember doing that piece and what I didn’t realize when their director contacted me, the casting guy who was actually, um, the producer, he’s the producer at the, at the network. He was like, look, we love the read, but it also has to be approved by the King family.
So. Like Martin Luther Kings. Yeah. I’m like, so they’re going to listen to it? Yes. They’re going to listen to it and give it their blessing if they like it. And um, it made me very nervous, but I’m like, no, this is, this is what you want it. This is what you wrote down on that piece of paper narration for network.
You didn’t say how big the network was, but you just said narration. So here you go. And I gave it a whirl. I [00:55:00] didn’t hear anything for a day. I’m like, all right. I believe that, uh, he emails, no, he calls me and he was like, um, I have a message for you. I’m thinking, okay, they’re gonna say, get this guy outta here.
Um, but the message was, tell the young man that narrated this, that he, uh, his voice reminds us so much of, of my father. And you’ve done the family proud. Wow phrasing, but some somewhere. But they gave the, they gave the green light and they, they enjoyed the read. So I’m like, that just happened. And, and when that did, yeah.
And when that happened, I’m like, okay, I can do this. And I’ve been going strong ever since. Just moving onward and upward and really dedicating myself to the craft. Uh, my friends in Vox tell me, they were like, dude, how do you find. You know, work and play. You didn’t, one of the hardest, like dudes, you’re [00:56:00] always posting.
I did this corporate thing I did. Where are you finding work? I’m like, I just growing up in, in Miami kids, and I’m sure it’s everywhere else, but just based on what I, I know what I’ve seen. You’re always taught to hustle. Um, my mom taught night school and you know, we would be out. Selling snacks to the students.
You’re like, Hey, you hungry, you’re thirsty. We got sandwiches. We had, you know, we got soda, we got whatever, you know, whatever it took to make you a couple of bucks, you, you did that. Um, and that work ethic is still, uh, it’s still in me. You know, I will reach out to 20, 30 or more producers, uh, you know, production companies, um, game developers, whomever, and, you know, just drop a, a short, Hey, how are you?
Um, my [00:57:00] name is Trey Mosley. I’m up a voice actor. I’m not really coming to you to say, give me work, give me work. However. Um, if you have a project coming up that you think my voice is a good fit for, uh, let’s talk about it. Um, here’s some samples of my work. Or you can go to mine, you know, Vimeo page, or you can go directly to my website.
Hope to hear from you sinned. And out of 20, if I get five, that’s a start. So that’s really how I got started and how I get work now. All in a nutshell. It’s crazy how I, I, I look back at it. How many times I almost gave this up and to see where I am now, I’m like, yeah, I wouldn’t trade this for nothing, man.
It has been a blast. It’s been an awesome, awesome ride. And um, yeah, I, I literally wouldn’t trade it for nothing.
Paul Stefano: Well, it’s good to hear that, that struggle because. I get that [00:58:00] question asked. A lot of me too, and I’m sure Sean does, and pretty much all of us who have been any modicum of success that, Oh, you really seem to be doing well.
How’d you do it? And it’s good to hear that it’s not easy and it does take work and perseverance. But having said all that. Now recently it seems you’ve sort of been on upswing and dare I say, skyrocketed with a couple of really high profile jugs.
Tre Mosley: Pay this man. Why don’t you,
Paul Stefano: I mean you’re, you’re ready with the most recognizable video game franchises in the world and Madden 2020 and you just did a promo for good morning America.
What have you done differently or can you point to something you’ve done differently that has really helped you hit the ground running in the last 12 to 18 months?
Tre Mosley: I turn off my phone. Or at least turn the sound that I don’t even put on vibrate. And I say that because when I go to, uh, either my laptop or like where I am now in the studio, I will dedicate as much time as I can to, [00:59:00] um, social media and between Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.
Um, I put up videos. Uh, sometimes it may not be an actual spot. It may just be a video of me in session. It may be an actual spot I’ve done and I market myself that way to let people know that, you know, if this is the kind of voice that you want for a specific project, then here I am. Another thing is a lot of people, for whatever reason, don’t like to.
Mentioned to their agents what type of work they want to do. I don’t have that problem. And, and I don’t say it in a demeaning or condescending way, but I’ll say, Hey, I’m been thinking about, uh, doing more promo work, uh, more sports stuff or whatever. So if you get something that comes your way and you think I’m a good fit for it, you know.
[01:00:00] Gimme your throat. And you know, luckily I have the type of agents that, that will listen and say, okay, Hey, uh, I got this thing for you, um, for the MLB network. Um, give us a couple of takes and less. Let’s see what happens. And now it’s on me because I’ve asked for this. So what are you gonna do to, to book the gig?
Some people would give, you know, a quick three reads and send it off. For me, I’m a little bit more, uh, older than neurotic. When Nick dumped all distance, I’ll just, I’ll do, I’ll do six takes and then it’s a process of elimination, like, okay, does that one sounded like that one. Does that one sound like that one?
No, those two are good. That was not as great. And then I just narrowed it down like, these are my three synth. And then I go, now there will be some folks on the other end of that. Well, that’s too long [01:01:00] to be our destiny. The, you know what you’re doing, or you’re dumb. I know what I’m doing. That’s why I do six auditions and now write down to three.
Some people, you know, send those three, and then soon as they hit sin, damn, I gotta do something different. Well, that’s too late now. So if that means spending an extra 15 minutes. On some editing. And that’s another thing. Over the years, a lot of the things that hampered me, uh, I can kind of fly through now and I think for, for most of us in, in this, um, business, um, editing is going to, either you’re going to love it or you’re not.
Because if it takes you an hour to, you know, edit three auditions, that’s a problem. I can usually knock everything out. Within 20 minutes because now you know what to listen for and you can look on your, in your wave form. If you use Adobe audition or [01:02:00] whatever program you’re looking at, you can tell the spikes and what needs to come out as a cough that’s a smack or whatever.
So repetition. You know, helps the memory so you can do those edits, like with your eyes closed. So I can do six auditions and still, you know, knock everything out in 15, 20 minutes because I know what to look for. But not only that, um, I’m also more selective in what I auditioned for. You know, when, when you’re new to this, everything that comes in your email, like, I do this, Oh, there’s one for McDonald’s.
Oh, there’s one for Arby’s. You can’t do them all. Wow. In a perfect world, we’d love to book everything that comes through our inbox. We’re not, but I will look at specs and if I see something that I’m like, okay, yeah, that’s me, I’ll do it. Sometimes I’ll look at specs and it’s totally opposite of me, and I’ll do it anyway just to give them something different.
[01:03:00] So you, you have to know when to go to that ledge and look down and take the jump. And you have to know when to say, yeah, I’m going to step back from this one. Because what you don’t want to do is keep sending out bad auditions because now not only will, um, clients tend to shy away from you, your agents will start to send you less work.
You know, I’ve had. Folks I’ve referred to, um, production companies, and they’re like, Hey, you know that that guy you sent us, you know, while he has a great voice, you know, his, his, uh, his audio quality’s not that great. And have you talked to him about it? I’m like, I’ll talk to him like, dude, you need to, your gang’s too high.
Or they’re hearing, you know, your extra breaths and co whatever. I’m like, look, even if you need to send me the file, I’ll fix it. But. If you booked this, you better have that your chain like together [01:04:00] because you’re missing out. You know, stuff that maybe was destined for you to book. They’re not going to give it to me because they’re like, yeah, we can’t work with him because his chain is not where it needs to be.
So little things like that can can help your process.
Sean Daeley: I definitely want to focus on that point cause I understand, especially when you’re getting started, the enthusiasm and chomping at the bit, like I’m going to audition for all the jobs, but this is where it’s even more important because it sounds like you yourself, you had these specific goals on the genres you wanted to pursue and for some people it kind of goes hand in hand with that enthusiasm is that you don’t have that vocal awareness of where you sit.
In the mix, like what genres are you even cut out for? And that’s why it’s so important to have that kind of team or supporters, whether it be a coach or just industry colleagues kind of listening to your stuff beforehand so they can make these, like you can make those improvements behind the scenes before it’s going to [01:05:00] cost you a job.
Tre Mosley: You are correct, sir. Um, what I used to do in the, in the early years is I would. You know, do a couple of takes. And there were a handful of folks that I would send to, Hey, listen to this real quick at the GAD time and tell me what you think. Because I knew that they were working already and I’m trying to get the work that they were getting.
So I’m like, okay, they’ll give it to me straight. And then now here, one person, Oh, well you got good tone for it, but slow down. Then someone will say, Hey, I hear like a in the background. You know, check your game, see if you know where’s your, what’s your room? You know, tone like, and everyone’s giving me different pieces in bits.
I’m like, okay, write that down. Room tone right there as I’m like, okay, what is that? And, but once I understood what it meant, I was able to say, okay, yeah, that is a little off. Why did I push it right there? Hey, that sounds flat. You sound totally. Do you want to audition for this? So over time you, [01:06:00] you, you know your body is.
The muscle. Most of it, at least will probably fat on me. But you know, for you, for you guys, like Sean, Sean has some muscles in there, but my point is, um, muscle memory. There are things that you do over time that you will remember and learn how to do. Whereas the rookies, and I wouldn’t even say rookies, but let’s just say the less experience, voice, talent, because they want.
Recognition. Um, as someone who can do the job, they sometimes are so headstrong to just send it in that they may not take the time to, to listen for those ES or. At the last second, the dog goes and you’re like, ah, they won’t hear that. Yes, they will hear that and then you’re not in the running anymore. Um, little things like that, uh, can really make the difference between being called back and being an afterthought in this business.
[01:07:00] Sean Daeley: Absolutely. And I forget who mentioned it, but there’s, this has been said at least once by agents and casting directors. They get so many auditions. They are looking for excuses to cut you from the bin. So many anything. Yeah. So any issues with audio, any uncut breaths or any other distractions, anything like that?
Yeah, they will not hesitate to put you in that. So don’t go. Don’t give them an excuse.
Tre Mosley: The breath thing though, is so selective. It it, you know, you ask an agent on Monday, I don’t mind breaths. Then you ask an agent, take the breaths out. So with that, you can kind of play with that one because I’ve sent some stuff in and I was pretty breathy and I’m like, I’m not going to get that.
Sean Daeley: the tray from the read is the question,
Tre Mosley: right? So you know, it’s, it’s, it’s subjective, but. As long as you’re not sounding like Mariah Carey, who was very breathy, you know, she’s like, yeah, don’t, don’t [01:08:00] do that. But if you’re reading something and it’s like so and so and so and so and so, but if you go like someone just surprised you, then edit that joker, man, get that out of there.
But you know, just, I mean, cause we naturally take breaths when we talk. So if you’re talking and so that’s cool, but if it’s like. Exaggerated, duh. Nah, that’s not good. That’s nice.
Sean Daeley: And so you’re, so, you’re obviously very passionate about this stuff, and I’m curious, we might’ve mentioned them before, but what are some of the favorite projects you’ve worked
Tre Mosley: on?
I love doing the NASCAR promos I did last year, the campaign for, for NASCAR. I think because it’s a conversation piece, when you tell someone that you were doing promos for NASCAR, especially, uh. You know, middle aged black man, they’re like, uh, you did what now? Yeah. I was the one of the promo voices for NASC like the car.
Yeah. You know, they go into AUV when room gentlemen starts your, yeah, that one. [01:09:00] And I remember when I booked it, I started getting all of these inboxes and texts like. Did you really get that? I knew what they were trying to say without, you know, saying it like just black man doing nothing. I say, yeah, it was me.
So then when the spot started to air and, um, I had a buddy of mine back home was like, bro, this dude on, on a Fox sound like you, like, cause dad’s me, man, that ain’t you man. I sent him, you know, I’m like, I’m gonna send you the spot. And I sent it to him like, I can’t, bro. He’s somebody to go brag on you so bad right now, because NASCAR was a very sacred thing in the South.
So to have a, a, a person of color, do it in a sport that’s not, we’re not really represented in it. That was a big thing. And I, I was, um, I was pretty excited about it and just like, Oh, this is [01:10:00] cool. I get to do this. So that was probably. That was probably the one, um, that I was proud of because at least for me and for my community, to my knowledge, I hadn’t heard any of the person of color do, you know, promos or anything for, for NASCAR.
So that was kind of a, it’s kind of a big deal. I w I was, um, glad to be a part of it.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, absolutely. I think you’re right on that town. So you mentioned a, there’s a couple of things. Well, when we were offline, you mentioned this, a couple of things you haven’t tried. Are there any genre because you never ever want to do, or two prong question.
Is there anything you won’t do for either ethical or political
Tre Mosley: reasons? Okay, so I love listening to audio books. Love it. Wow. I think I have the vocal stamina for it. I don’t think I have the patience. You know, I can sit and listen. Like if Paul [01:11:00] tells me, Hey, I got a new book out there, go listen to it.
I’ll listen to Paul all day. I’m like, Oh, good job, man. Now if he calls me and say, Hey, I got a gig for you. Nah, bro, we not doing that. We not doing that. I don’t know. And I’ve done an audio book before, but I, I played characters. So you have other people. It was, it was an ensemble cast. I could probably do that.
So let me . Let me amend my statement. I won’t say that I won’t do audio books, but if I have to do one by myself, that’s a, that’s a no for me. But if you tell me, Hey, we got this book and you’re going to play, you know, captain Jack, and then you’re going to play this person, this person, I could probably do that because then that tells me I don’t have the whole thing I need to read.
You know, it may be two or three chapters when I come back, Oh, I’m here now. Okay, yeah, let’s do that. But every chapter I’m like, and so we trudged on going [01:12:00] through the wastelands, um, I’ll put myself to sleep.
Sean Daeley: So. So is it a stamina thing for you? Cause I mean, I know you do really well with like documentary narration and there are some carryovers in that kind of storytelling style.
So like, what do you feel is the biggest hurdle for you?
Tre Mosley: Focus. I’ll be honest with you, focus after about and I actually had the turn down, um, an audio book, and I hated that I had to do that. There was a audio book company that reached out. It was like, Hey, we would love for you to do, um, this audio book we have about Marcus Garvey.
And I’m like, Oh, that would be awesome. And I’m thinking, eh. Maybe then it’ll be about three or four chapters long, and then they send over the manuscript. I’m like, this, this is a trilogy. I’m, I can’t do this. Um, but I, I, I gave him a chapter and sent it over and they were like, Oh, we love this. We gotta have you on this.
[01:13:00] I’m like, okay, um, I’ll do it. And I could never get any chapters done. I’m just thinking. After getting into it about an hour or so into it, I’m like, what? What am I doing? What do you, what are you doing, you, you, and, and it wasn’t, uh, a can’t do kind of thing. It was just like, nah, this is, this is not you.
Narrations are different. And here’s why. When you see a narration on TV, and let’s say it’s an hour long. The actual, like I did one for ESPN for the, uh, university of Kentucky Wildcats, uh, men’s basketball team. Every year before the season starts, they go and do this tournament in the, in the islands in The Bahamas.
It was a 30 minute documentary. My actual read time was maybe 15 minutes. So in between that. Anytime I would like, say something [01:14:00] in the script. Now they’re showing video footage or they’re interviewing a player or the interviewing, uh, John Calipari, and then I’ll come back, you know, as the players did so-and-so.
And so it was time to get the business, and now they’re showing footage of them, you know, beaten university of Puerto Rico by 35 or whatever, and then not come back and say something. Then I’d come back and say something. So things like that I, I don’t mind doing, but when it’s just. On and on and on. I love to listen to him.
Like I’ll say
Sean Daeley: hi, but don’t get me wrong. I’m not trying to guilt you and it like, come on, Trey, you’re leaving money on the table here. But no, I just think you’ve got a wonderful voice for it. I was just curious what like, I mean, everyone’s got their own reasons and their own path that they’re their carbon and I think you’re doing just fine,
Tre Mosley: but I will say this, Sean, if there is a book that comes along that just absolutely fascinates and intrigues me.
I’ll give it a shot. I will give it the old missing college. Try and, and really [01:15:00] try to, you know, just all right. Stay focused. Keep plenty of tea around, you know, some, some crackers or something and give me energy. And just. Do the thing, but you know, I have always been one to sprint and not marathon, so
Sean Daeley: I respect that.
Tre Mosley: Totally. Uh, uh, I
Sean Daeley: go back and forth depending on the time of the month.
Tre Mosley: Yeah. So, you know, I, I, I’m, I’m a sprinter in, in my mind, not, not a marathoner. So, um, I will keep sprinting with my promos and commercials, but if the right book comes along, Hey, James Bond said, never say never. So neither will lie.
Sean Daeley: Very true.
And I find that like, and that’s true of any genre. If it’s a project that you’re passionate about, like it doesn’t matter the technical or mechanical requirements or whatever, you’ll, you’ll get it done.
Tre Mosley: And to answer your question, Paul, um, as far as politically, I wouldn’t mind doing political spies if is.
Just a [01:16:00] direct, Hey, vote for this guy. Vote for that guy. But as far as, um, the mud slinging stuff, you know, so-and-so was wasting your tax dollars every year and you know, and, and you’re really just trying to make the other person just sound like he’s the lowest scum of the earth kind of stuff. I don’t like to do things like that.
Well, if it’s something, you know, so-and-so’s done a lot for the community. Vote for Paul Stephano, you know, for city Councilman. Yeah, I’ll do, I’ll do, I’ll do the fluff. The Mo, the more fluffy pieces. I’ll do the Leslie instead
Sean Daeley: it up. Don’t knock the other one down.
Tre Mosley: Yeah, I’ll do the, I’ll do the fluff pieces.
I’d love to do that. You know, you know, she’s a, she’s a woman with the people, you know, he’s a man of the people. But did you hear about the scandal, the tape? That was, nah, I’m not . Very cause we all have our secrets and whatnot. And you know, if, if this person that you’re giving your vote to for however you feel about the person, you know, vote for them because you feel they’re [01:17:00] the right person, not because you heard, you know, some, some scandalous nonsense.
Because then if it, you know, comes out to be wrong and then you vote for some idiot. Now you’re like, damn, I should’ve voted for the other guy. Well, it’s too, so yeah, I, I’m in my old age, I’m only 45, but still, I like to do feel good stuff, man. It’s too much going on out there now that people are a gloom and doom and I don’t want to contribute to the gloom and doom.
That’s too happy, fun stuff. Um. You know, and I don’t mind doing stuff that snarky. I know that’s kind of, you know, I don’t know. Paul has that give raps. That’s him all day. But I’m just saying I can, yeah, I can do snarky, but I don’t want to be like a holis in that. Nah, nah. It was a video game. It was like, Hey, do you need me to be like, kind of an AAO kind of guy?
I can, I can do that. But from a political standpoint, no. Um, racially. [01:18:00] If it’s something, if it’s, if it’s something, I’ll tell you a quick story. I had a, a production company that I worked for in the Netherlands, and he said what he was trying to say was, he wanted my sound to sound more urban, but. He didn’t know how to say it.
And, and he felt so bad because he thought that what he was saying was racially insensitive to me. And he was like, um, uh, Trey, I, I want you to to be black. I’m like, I am black. No, no, I, I need more black. I’m like, if I get any darker, you won’t see me. And I’m purposely. You know F and with him, because I’m like, I need him to say what he wants to say.
And now he’s like, I’m sorry I’ve been salted. I don’t know. I said, no, no, no, no, no. I said, I know what you want. I said, you don’t want a more corporate sound. Do you want something. Kind of like this. You need something like [01:19:00] this, right? Yes. Yes. That is, that is the black guy once. I’m like,
Sean Daeley: but is it the black union
Tre Mosley: that is the that is the black guy one.
That’s it. See, you don’t want this black wire sound like I got some sense. Oh, what you want is old thug suck or have, no, no, I don’t mean that. I say I’m just mixing up there. Do literally cry for like two minutes because he thought. That I’m saying, um, and now, now I’m feeling like, okay, now, now you’re the asshole.
I’m like, I’m sorry. I’m just messing with you. I know exactly what you want. I know exactly what you want, and I’ll give it to you. And then, uh, we did the session. He emailed this long. I am so sorry. Um, please forgive. Please forgive. Um, we usually do net 30. We will send money now. I’m like, is that what it takes a very upset then.
Send the money now, but no, he was cool about it. But if it’s something that’s dealing with the race, that [01:20:00] it’s the kind of thing where it’s shedding and like I said, I like to do stuff that’s positive, so we sat in the positive light, then I’m all for it. You know, not to beat a dead horse. It’s just way too much negative crap out there now.
And I just will not lend mine name or voice to it. Won’t do it. Makes sense. And I’ve turned down a pretty nice pay day. Um, there was a spot that was sent to me for like $8,000 to, to pretty much say that this guy was just like a POS. I’m like, nah, I’m gonna do it. It had another one. There was a video game, I think an indie video game where, um, they were.
Talking to talk. So I think one of the characters was God and how he was just something on the lines of God being a terrorist or something like that. I’m like, yeah, that, yeah, how’d you even get my email address? That’s not going to work? And he was [01:21:00] like, man, it’s just a parodies. It’s, we’re just having fun.
I said, well, you have fun on your own time and your own dime. I’m not with it. So, and I’m not super religious, but I am spiritual and, and I know that. My family and friends, if they even got wind of that, that that just wouldn’t sit right within my soul. So I was like, nah, can’t do it, buddy. So if it doesn’t feel good to me, then it’s not gonna be good for me.
Paul Stefano: that. Absolutely. Well try. We’ve talked at VO Atlanta and you mentioned how that was beneficial for you earlier in your career. Can you talk about what conferences, and maybe it’s the SVO Atlanta specifically has done for your business.
Tre Mosley: Yeah. I what one thing I’m, I, um, am kind of bummed that I did not be a part of, uh, our, the Pfaff cons.
I used to hear so much about them and you know, of course, now when I want to go, we’re not doing anymore. Well, that sucks.
Sean Daeley: Although I hear a [01:22:00] Volvo con is pretty much like the next best thing. One would hope a lot of the same people working behind the scenes and it’s not as exclusive to get into, but there is the assumption that these are all working pros and so the overall attendance is smaller.
Tre Mosley: thank you for that nugget. Absolutely.
Sean Daeley: But of course, Mr. Mosley.
Tre Mosley: Yes. Thank you for that. To me, boy view Atlanta did a lot for my, um, my career. Because between that and dad’s voice over, those were the two that I attended. You have folks that went to, I think it was called voice, um, Mevo and other, you know, conferences.
But I, you know, as the years went by, I started to learn about these things. I didn’t know that back then via Atlanta because I saw it on YouTube and that’s voice over because Joan and Rudy were there. Those are the only two I knew of. So I just kind of stuck with what I knew. And, um. They’ve helped me because it gave me [01:23:00] the opportunity to really be around the folks that are, are, are doing it.
Um, you know, like I said, the, the day for noise, the, the Joe Cypriot knows the Pat frailties. Townsend Coleman. You know, bill Ratner’s of the world and not just the celeb, the vio celebrities. But then I’ve met people like Carrie Olsen, the great intelligent marriage. You know, who we all know? You know people like that as well.
So you’re able to take something from each of these people and incorporate it into what you want to do. And I think. If you’re a talent that is really unsure about where you sit in the scale of VO, um, find a conference or two and really immerse yourself in not necessarily the, the panels. Immerse yourself in the [01:24:00] people outside of the panels because that’s where the action is.
You can sit in a panel and have them talk all day about fair rates now, fair raids now, or this is how you book a promo. This is how you book this. But when you talk to these people outside of it, and they get to know you as a person and not just another cog in the wheel, uh, you make connections that way.
People start to see you as, Hey, you know, he’s a really cool dude. Yeah, he really is, huh. And you know, they may have a casting coming up and may not know what your chops are, but because you were so nice that throw you a bone and say, Hey, don’t really know if this is in your wheelhouse. But. Got this gig coming up.
Uh, I know the casting guy. He needs, you know, this, this and this. Give me a couple of takes and send it back in and let’s go from there. Voiceover is all about, uh, it’s community, it’s connections, it’s [01:25:00] comradery. You know, it’s a big pot of gumbo because you need all of those components to be successful in, uh, in, in the last C is confidence because if you don’t have that, the other ones won’t matter.
Because if you don’t have confidence, you’re not going to walk up to that person and say, Hey, I’m so-and-so, and so, or Hey, I heard you’re spot on so-and-so, and so great job. If you don’t have confidence, you’re not going to go when this person sends you that, you know, that could be a potential gig in and go to your mic and let, yeah, let me not three out real quick.
You’re going to sit there and what if they can’t do it? So confidence above anything is going to attract everything else. So if you’re not confident. Then you don’t get the other stuff. So be confident people.
Paul Stefano: But the good thing is most people are friendly at these conferences. I remember when I, when I saw you in the lobby, the two now, three years ago, I guess, I don’t think we’d actually met yet, and I just sort of grab you, your, with your, uh, your lovely fiance at [01:26:00] the time.
Danielle and. I was like, Hey, let’s talk. And we sat down for like almost an hour and just talked about nothing and it was great.
Tre Mosley: Yeah, you’re going to get so many points.
Sean Daeley: There are man beside each other out and gave each other a big old hug. You’re like, yes, I’m the Trey Moses Sao time.
Tre Mosley: Finally he talks about there are certain people that sees meant that, um, you know, she’s like, you know, I have never seen an industry like this where you guys. I genuinely liked to see each other.
She’s gone to the corporate corporate stuff, and I was like, Hey, there’s, you know, there’s Dave and accounting and screw day bud. How’s it going? You know? She’s like, you guys, like, like y’all like each other. Yeah. Like, um, when I think it was you, you. Brad, it was Brett. It was Brad. It was mean. It was you. And we were in that one town after [01:27:00] a Townsend Coleman said a speech and we all took a picture and got hugs.
He was like, I’ve never seen so much. Man love in my life. Just
Sean Daeley: tearing up, man. She’s
Tre Mosley: so nice.
Sean Daeley: It’s so beautiful. And I just wanted to make one point and then we’ll, we’ll do one more question. But like, I often tell people, like if you’ve got, like, if you’re really interested in VO and you’ve . Got a budget of about one to two grand.
You really should consider whether you want to dive in with a coach or if you’re even uncertain, go to a conference because you’re going to learn a crap ton about all aspects of the industry. And like you said, you’re going to get to know the people who make it up very well, and then you can make those choices like, is this an industry?
Is this an environment that I even want to be in? You know. So, I mean, it looks like you’re spending a lot up front, but honestly, if that’s all you ever spend, it’s a lot less than what you could spend if you just kind of spin your wheels and do a little bit of this and that for years and years and don’t really go anywhere.
So. [01:28:00] It’s something that you really should consider, especially if you’re at those beginning stages. But, um, one more question and then we’ll wrap up. I mean, you’ve got, you’ve got this wonderful attitude. You’ve got this healthy stable of clients and projects right now. What’s the future for Trey? Um,
Tre Mosley: the future for me, I still have one thing on my bucket list that I haven’t scratched off yet.
Sean Daeley: do tell. Or it’s going to jinx it. But
Tre Mosley: trailers, I have yet to do any trailers. I’ve, I’ve had some auditions come, um, got a couple of short lists, but having cracked that nut just yet. So everything that I’ve sought to do, I’ve done got the video game. Uh. Under my belt. Actually. I got there a couple indie games that I have that I’m working on with a production team that’s in the works.
I’ve got the narration, I got the promo, I’ve done commercials. [01:29:00] So the trailer is like that, that unreachable star. I keep seeing it and I kind of reach and reach and it keeps getting further and further away, but I am hoping that before the year is out. You’ll hear a quick radar from me soon, or a PG 13.
So, Hey, if you’re listening out there and you need a trailer guy, I know one in particular who, uh, bring some spice to year two, your flick there. So come on, give me a go. So
Paul Stefano: yeah. It’s made the highest profile casting agents in Hollywood, listening to us on a daily basis. I’m positive of that.
Sean Daeley: You never know.
They say they’re always looking for new
Tre Mosley: talent. I’ll always look at it. I’m here. So yes. Well, no, that would, that would probably be the, the one thing, um, is, is, uh, to, to not the trailer thing. And I love doing promos now, um, which seems to kind of be, uh, the, the. The bread and butter for [01:30:00] me. So I been doing this thing with Madden, which is crazy cause I actually have fans.
I’m like, what is this? What is this. I, I got these, these 1314 year old boys that are following me on Instagram. They’re like, Hey, are you really the voice? And I’ll tell you a quick story. So I get these kids and it was like a group chat and they all hit me up at once. Like, Hey, my friend says you’re, you’re the voice of superstar.
So the mode in the game is called superstar Kao and a lot of the kids play because it’s a faster mode. They don’t have to sit in and play four quarters of football. It’s like a 10 minutes. Game? No, not even 10, maybe five minute game combined. And, um. I play the DJ in the game. Um, well you, you from BMO, you familiar with the an one mixtape?
Yup. Okay. So you know how to do is on the mind, like, yo, that’s a nice play. Yo pay me. I’m kinda that guy in the gang. So was like, all right, third and 15, let’s see what he’s gonna do. Oh, [01:31:00] going back to pants. Oh man. Where’s the defense? So that’s kind of the character that I play and the kids love it. So.
When these, when these kids hit me up, I’m like, okay, I got something I’ll do for them. So I tagged them all in a post. And did the voice of the character I do in the game and they lost it. He was like, it’s really him. And then I get like 20 follows all from their high school. I’m like, do you know, that’s my buddy where we’re in, you know, third period to get asked my parents.
I’m like, wow. So there is that. Um, which has been really cool. Um, and they also just, uh, let me know that. The mode is very successful and they want to bring me back for Madden 21
Paul Stefano: already. Wow.
Tre Mosley: Congrats. Like, huh? Okay. Well. That’s cool. So yeah, it’s, um, it’s been a good couple of years, man. I’m, I’m on a, I’m on a good run and I’ll [01:32:00] just continue to do what I do.
Um, when the agent send me something that’s good and I think I’m good for it, I’ll send it out. I’ll continue to work my social media channels, uh, putting content up. Um, I will ha it’s my wife sends me a message saying, are you still in your interview? Yes, I am. Um, and she’ll hear this, I’m sure, but just, I just want to continue to grow.
One thing about this business, you’ll never stop learning and growing because technology is going to change. Uh, trends are going to change. You know, everyone thought that the, the great announcer was dead, but then. Certain spots now I’ve heard him like, nah, he’s not dead. He’s just sleep. And every now and then they’ll go boom and wake him up.
Huh? You need what? Coming? Just, you know, so different things come and go. Just like in any, uh,
Paul Stefano: I just like flannel. Yeah,
Tre Mosley: that is correct. So [01:33:00] trends come and go. I mean,
Sean Daeley: I’m in the Pacific Northwest. It never left.
Paul Stefano: It’s true.
Tre Mosley: How about that? So. I, I think I want to expand on the type of work I do. Um, I think I want to reach out more to.
Um, the folks that are coming behind me, and I’ll tell you this real quick and then we can wrap up. The last via Atlanta, I went to, uh, matter of fact, that’s when we all were there 2016. Um, I won, you know, via Atlanta is notorious for their raffles. At the end of the conference, the raffle that I won was a one hour consult with Josie.
Brianna. Oh man.
Paul Stefano: Yeah. Don’t talk to him. That guy’s a jerk.
Sean Daeley: What does he know?
Tre Mosley: Oh, you guys are funny. Um, Oh man. So me and Joe were talking and I let him hear the demo that I had done. Uh, I had gotten done and he was like, [01:34:00] Trey. It’s a great demo. It’ll serve you well. But, um, I need to hear more. Trey, I need to hear more you.
So your next demo, I need you to get something that’s gonna really represent who you are. It’ll serve you well, but it’s not going to really get you the work that you want. And I was like, thank you so much for being honest with me. Um, you know, I don’t, and I don’t know how to repay. He was like, just pay it forward.
And that’s what I’ve been doing. You know, I’ve had gear that I haven’t used, I’ve sent to people and I’m like, Hey, I’m not using this door anymore. Um, it’s yours if you want it. Um, a buddy of mine who’s been trying to get into audio books forever had some, you know, financial trouble and had to part ways with his gear.
I’m like, well, I’ll tell you what, I was gifted my four 16, so the shotgun that I had before the four 16 I gave to him, I’m like, it’ll be in my mailbox in a couple of days. So
Sean Daeley: brilliant, man.
Tre Mosley: If I get in [01:35:00] a bigger position to pay things forward even more, um, I’d be good with that. Well,
Sean Daeley: honestly, man, the gratitude just oozes off of you.
Tre Mosley: It’s dripping. That’s what we say in the hood. Then it’s dripping,
Sean Daeley: ripping for real friends. It’s so, but I mean it’s so, it couldn’t be more true. Cause I mean like you’ve just got this wonderful, this gentle optimism about you. And like I said, all the work that you got, you receive, like you totally deserve it.
And you’re just a perfect example of the laws of attraction. Man. You were patient persistent, you’ve worked hard, and it’s super duper positive. And I think all of us can learn from that.
Tre Mosley: Oh, I appreciate it, man. And you know, I have my days where I’m, you know, even even Superman takes a day off where I have to hang up the Cape and I’m like, okay, this is just not one of those days, you know.
I’ll post my, you know, my, my happy, positive Facebook posts, and then there’s some days I’m like, I don’t want to post [01:36:00] anything in that that’s just being human. But for those days that I, I’m feeling good, I like to, you know, share the wealth in any way I can. If it’s an email or somebody asking me, Hey, can you listen to this audition or, you know, be honest with me.
Do you think I got a sound at this? You know, I’ll, I’ll do what I can. Uh, I’ve referred folks for work. Um, I’ve had folks refer work, uh, to me, mr Daley, and
Sean Daeley: I’m happy to do it.
Tre Mosley: Yeah. So it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s people like you and Paul and, and, and other folks in this industry that make me want to do what I do, because I think the more nice folks we have in the industry, um, especially for the, for the, the, um.
The new generation of, of uh, first and second year and even third year folks that, that are coming in, they’ll stay and then they’ll want to contribute and it just keeps going and keeps perpetuating everybody else to just be good. Well, [01:37:00] so I want to be, I want to be Bob sour. There you go. Bob’s the second nicest man.
I want to be the third night’s he’s mad behind him. I don’t want to be,
Sean Daeley: you just bumped me down a spot.
Tre Mosley: All right, I’ll take,
Sean Daeley: Oh, I’ll be the fourth. Oh, it’s all right.
Paul Stefano: There’s room for everyone on the nice list.
Sean Daeley: Train you train. I will share the runner up for the nicest.
Paul Stefano: I’ll try. It’s been a pleasure. We’ve known each other for a while.
Virtually. I’m doing air quotes. I think we met back in 2015 on the VO MIBI, and it’s a pleasure to finally have you on the show. I can’t believe we haven’t done this before. I apologize for the delay.
Tre Mosley: Life happens, dude, when you, when you guys hit me up, I’m like, huh? They like me.
Paul Stefano: It was just me finally getting over my bitter jealousy.
Tre Mosley: Honestly.
Sean Daeley: He’s a very proud man.
Tre Mosley: He is. He was an awesome dude. He knows. He just definitely, man, that’s his thing. But no, I enjoyed the guys. I, I’m [01:38:00] glad that you, um. Took the time to talk to the Oh man. And um, it was fun. How many times is this happened to you? You’re listening to the radio when this commercial comes on, not unlike this one, and this guy starts talking, not unlike myself.
Maybe it’s a woman that starts talking, not unlike myself.
Sean Daeley: And you think to yourself,
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Paul Stefano: So thanks again to Trey for coming on the VO meter. The guy just has such a great spirit. He’s been so fun to talk to you and hang out with it via Atlanta the last couple of years, and a breath of fresh air in the industry.
So happy for
Sean Daeley: him. The word beacon comes to mind. He just such a positive Radian guy, you know? He just makes you feel, he makes a smile every time you see him.
Paul Stefano: Yeah, he’s a good counterbalance to me because I’m genuinely kind of pissy and full of vinegar. So whenever I talk to Trey, I feel better about myself to
Sean Daeley: the bitter cynic.
Well, thank you so much, Trey, for being on the podcast. That pretty much wraps up this episode of the VO meter
Paul Stefano: measuring your voice over progress.
Sean Daeley: Come join us next episode when we talk with audio book coach and narrator Margarite Gavin slash Shannon parks. And we talk about, uh, among other things, the importance of pseudonyms for working actors.
And, uh, who else do we got coming up after [01:40:00] that? We
Paul Stefano: also have recent Sovos winner and fellow Baltimore, Ian Rex Anderson, who will talk to us about how he works out of a smaller market like Baltimore. And that’s actually being done in person in my lovely, uh, Lutherville studio. Very
Sean Daeley: cool. Can’t wait.
Paul Stefano: But that’s it for now.
Thanks for joining us and we’ll see you next time.
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